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“Exegetically Speaking” is a weekly podcast of the friends and faculty of Wheaton College, IL and The Lanier Theological Library. Hosted by Dr. David Capes, it features language experts who discuss the importance of learning the biblical languages—Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek—and show how reading the Bible in the original languages “pays off.” Each podcast lasts between seven and eleven minutes and covers a different topic for those who want to read the Bible for all it is worth.

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Mar 21, 2022

Dr. Jordan Ryan is Assistant Professor of New Testament at Wheaton College and author of The Role of the Synagogue in the Aims of Jesus, among other things. The Greek word for “church/assembly” (ἐκκλησία, ekklesia) occurs in the Gospels only in Matt. 16:18 and 18:17. Dr. Ryan observes that there were a couple of types of synagogues in the Jewish world, and Matthew might be using the word ἐκκλησία in Matt. 18:17 to demarcate an “association synagogue,” i.e., a Jewish synagogue that was less public and more private, in this case comprised of Jesus followers.